167 – The Life Aquatic with Steve Zissou

We’ll get you a red cap and a speedo for this week’s episode, becuase we’re talking about Wes Anderson for the first time with The Life Aquatic with Steve Zissou. The follow-up to Anderson’s first Oscar-nominated film The Royal Tenenbaums put Bill Murray front and center in the year after Murray almost won Best Actor for Lost in Translation. But critics were far less kind to this film than Anderson’s previous efforts (it remains his only rotten movie on RT), and voters looking to reward Murray for his previous loss were met with a more caustic and off-putting character than hid lauded “sad Murray” era.

This episode, we look back at how Murray was shockingly snubbed for Anderson’s Rushmore and the ebbs and flows of Anderson’s career in relation to audience/critic perceptions. And since no performance in a Wes Anderson film has ever landed an Oscar nomination, we pick our top 5 performances in his films we think are most deserving.

Topics also include Seu Jorge’s David Bowie covers in Portuguese, whether or not Ray is appropriately categorized as a musical, and which performance in The French Dispatch has the best chance at a nomination.

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166- To Die For

Nicole Kidman finally joins the THOB Six Timers Club this week with what many consider her first major critical success. In the same year that Kidman had a major blockbuster in Batman Forever, the actress joined forces with Gus Van Sant for satirical Joyce Maynard adaptation To Die For. The film starred Kidman as the fame obsessed (and possibly murderous) Suzanne Stone, earning the actress raves and a Golden Globe for Best Actress in a Comedy/Musical, but stiff competition among lead actresses left the film as a headscratcher of an Oscar snub in hindsight.

To Die For was also a rebound for Van Sant from the disastrous Even Cowgirls Get The Blues, and we look back at his career balanced between big successes and major misfires. We also talk about Illeana Douglas’ burst of great supporting roles in the 1990s, the emergence of tabloid and talkshow culture, and the 1995 Cannes Film Festival.

Topics also include the late work of screenwriter Buck Henry, Goldie Hawn in Protocol, and what the plot of Vanessa Redgrave-starrer A Month By The Lake might be.

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165 – The Counselor

There are few names in modern literature with more prestige than Cormac McCarthy, and his work has been adapted into the likes of Best Picture winner No Country for Old Men. For his first produced original screenplay, he partnered with one of the most prestigious names in movies and our most discussed director, Ridley Scott. Together they brought an all-star cast led by Michael Fassbender for a tale of violence and hubris called The Counselor. With scenes of Cameron Diaz humping a car and Brad Pitt being slowly beheaded by a mechanized wire lasso, The Counselor was immediately dismissed by (most) critics and audiences for its interminable plot and excessive violence.

This episode, we talk about film adaptations of Cormac McCarthy’s work and Ridley Scott’s upcoming twofer Oscar hopefuls this season in House of Gucci and The Last Duel. We also discuss offensive onscreen representations of Mexico, Fassbender’s hard-to-place screen persona, and bastardization of the MTV Movie Awards.

Topics also include Ridley Scott trailers, Bardem’s styling in the movie, and “The Continental.”

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164 – American Pastoral

We’ve talked before about adaptations of Pulitzer Prize winners and films that had disastrous premieres at the Toronto International Film Festival, but perhaps none as disappointing as this week’s film. From one of the most lauded novels of the modern era, American Pastoral had the heaviest burden of expectations and stop-and-start production history. With a pedigreed cast of Ewan McGregor, Jennifer Connelly, and Dakota Fanning, the film was originally intended to be brought to the screen by Phillip Noyce, only to be replaced shortly before filming by none other than McGregor himself. Critics weren’t kind to McGregor’s directorial debut, and it died as soon as it world premiered at TIFF.

The film underwent a fast re-edit, but that didn’t help it from bombing when it opened in the same weekend as eventual Best Picture winner Moonlight, the film underwent a fast re-edit. This episode, we redicover the film’s poor attempt at adapting Phillip Roth, Jennifer Connelly’s post-Oscar career, and how using Buffalo Springfield in movies about the 1960s should no longer be allowed.

Topics also include a return to David Strathairn being hot, McGregor’s screen persona, and Fanning’s rise as a go-to child actor.

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163 – The River Wild

How do you get a studio action movie some Oscar buzz? You cast Meryl Streep in the lead role. Starring the beloved actress as a woman whose family is taken captive on a white water rafting vacation, The River Wild was a modest fall hit for director Curtis Hansen and earned Globe nominations for Streep and the film’s villain Kevin Bacon. But in a scattered Best Actress race that ultimately resulted in a steamroll for Jessica Lange for the long-shelved Blue Sky, Streep would have to continue what would become her longest period without a nomination—a whopping four years

Streep was also nominated at the first ever SAG Awards, which further compliacated the race by awarding the twice Oscared Jodie Foster for Nell. This epsiode, we dive into the film’s thrilling delights and the career of Curtis Hansen. We also discuss Bacon’s closest brushes with the awards race, David Strathairn being hot, and the most iconic movie Gails.

Topics also include which Meryl characters are tops, Six Degrees of Kevin Bacon, and Lollapalooza hats.

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BONUS – Another Year, Another TIFF

Chris and Joe are back “at” the Toronto International Film Festival, and as we’re prone to do, we’re bringing you a bonus episode to recap the experience. We review our virtual TIFF experience from home with a quick mention of the films we missed and how this hybrid year has made for a more muted festival. We discuss our favorite films of the festival, which films might have boosted or lost their Oscar chances, a strong lineup of documentary films, and potential International Feature submissions.

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162 – The Good Dinosaur (with Kyle Amato)

We’re doing something a little different this week and setting our sights on one specific Oscar category: Best Animated Feature. This episode, Kyle Amato joins us to talk about The Good Dinosaur, one of the few box office and critical disappointments in the history of Pixar. The story of a timid dinosaur and the human baby he meets on a quest for honor, The Good Dinosaur was plagued by story overhauls and creative disputes, resulting in a final film that follows too closely to Pixar’s formula for upbeat adventure. Critics were dismissive and Thanksgiving weekend moviegoers favored the final Hunger Games instalment instead, with the film ultimately becoming one of Pixar’s few entries to miss an Animated Feature nomination since the category began.

The Good Dinosaur’s biggest Oscar impact was nominated Sanjay’s Super Team as it’s pre-movie short. We talk about Pixar’s history of troubled productions and this film’s comparative failure in the year of Inside Out. We also discuss the Cars franchise as the accepted critical loser in the Pixar brand, Pixar’s unrelenting stronghold on the Animated Feature category, and the film’s stitched together elements of characters and plot elements.

Topics also include dropping hallucinogenics with a baby, our thoughts on Pixar’s 2021 release Luca, and the recent nominees in the Animated Short category.

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161 – The Mule

Many of Clint Eastwood’s most recent films have arrived in quick turnaround, going from announcement to filming to release in a head-spinningly short amount of time. In 2018, he had one of his fastest productions ever with The Mule, a story of an 80-year-old man estranged from his family who takes on a job hauling drugs across the border in his pickup truck. Inspired partly by a true story, the film’s sprint to theatres set expectations that it might be another of Eastwood’s successful late season arrivals like Million Dollar Baby. The result was a Christmas season box office success, but a film that ultimately didn’t attempt much of an awards campaign to make voters take notice.

This episode, we don’t mince words about how we feel about the film’s offensive stereotypes and clunky pseudo-comic character study. We get into Bradley Cooper reuniting with Eastwood for a thankless role here in the same season as his triumph with A Star Is Born, and how Cooper shockingly missed out on becoming the season’s frontrunner. And we discuss the film’s trolling tactics, the work of screenwriter Nick Schenk, and the free pass the film received by critics.

Topics also include an egregiously underused Dianne Wiest, flirting at flower conventions, and Eastwood grumbling the word “internet.”

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160 – Elizabethtown (with Phil Iscove)

Joining us this week is Podcast Like It’s 1999′s Phil Iscove to finally unpack a foundational This Had Oscar Buzz text. After winning an Oscar for Almost Famous and delivering a financially succesful (if extremely divisive) hit in Vanilla Sky, Cameron Crowe decided to return to his roots with Elizabethtown. Starring Orlando Bloom as a young shoe designer struggling to cope with professional ruin and the sudden death of his father, he meets a buoyant flight attendant played by Kirsten Dunst who brings him back to to himself. Crowded with song cues, bizarre character beats, and notes of whimsy that struggle to stick the landing, the film received a disastrous critical response at the Venice and Toronto film festivals, leading Crowe back into the editing room before release and Oscar to immediately count this one out.

Still a film that has a sizable fanbase of defenders of its earnest vibes, Elizabethtown is remembered today as the beginning of the end for Crowe and birthing the phrase Manic Pixie Dream Girl (as penned by Nathan Rabin). This episode, we dive into all that works and doesn’t for us in Crowe’s sentimental screwball movie, its infamous casting struggles with the biggest young acting names of the time, and the ups and recent downs of Crowe’s career.

Topics also include Roger Ebert’s later reassessment of the film’s theatrical cut, the Crowe/Tarantino divide of pastiche, and tap dancing at funerals.

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159 – The House of Mirth

This week, we are looking at the work of director Terence Davies and his 2000 literary adaptation of The House of Mirth. Based on the classic Edith Wharton novel, the film casts Gillian Anderson as Lily Bart, a woman who tragically fails to navigate the cruelties of New York high society at the turn of the century. The film earned strong reviews for Davies (rebounding from his adpatation misfire The Neon Bible) and Anderson (still flying high with her Emmy-winning performance on The X-Files), but a small late year release made this one a bigger hit with critics than it ultimately was for the Academy.

We look back at the 200 Best Actress lineup, and discuss how Anderson might have fallen victim to an Academy still too willing to categorized television stars as just television stars and how indie distributor Sony Pictures Classics (rightly) had another awards priority. We also discuss how costume dramas went out of fashion as Best Picture contenders, the film’s spectacular supporting cast, and the 2000 Costume Design nominees.

Topics also include to extinct Village Voice poll, the British Independent Film Awards, and the 2000 Toronto International Film Festival.

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