{"id":528,"date":"2021-03-15T20:13:21","date_gmt":"2021-03-15T20:13:21","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/fightinginthewarroom.com\/THOB\/?p=528"},"modified":"2021-03-15T20:13:21","modified_gmt":"2021-03-15T20:13:21","slug":"136-white-oleander-with-nathaniel-rogers","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/fightinginthewarroom.com\/THOB\/2021\/03\/15\/136-white-oleander-with-nathaniel-rogers\/","title":{"rendered":"136 &#8211; White Oleander (with Nathaniel Rogers)"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"aligncenter size-large wp-image-529\" src=\"https:\/\/fightinginthewarroom.com\/THOB\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/03\/whiteoleander-thob-1024x576.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"840\" height=\"473\" srcset=\"https:\/\/fightinginthewarroom.com\/THOB\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/03\/whiteoleander-thob-1024x576.jpg 1024w, https:\/\/fightinginthewarroom.com\/THOB\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/03\/whiteoleander-thob-300x169.jpg 300w, https:\/\/fightinginthewarroom.com\/THOB\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/03\/whiteoleander-thob-768x432.jpg 768w, https:\/\/fightinginthewarroom.com\/THOB\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/03\/whiteoleander-thob-1200x675.jpg 1200w, https:\/\/fightinginthewarroom.com\/THOB\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/03\/whiteoleander-thob.jpg 1280w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 709px) 85vw, (max-width: 909px) 67vw, (max-width: 1362px) 62vw, 840px\" \/><\/p>\n<p>Pfor this week\u2019s episode, we\u2019ve invited The Film Experience creator and Michelle Pfeiffer superpfan Nathaniel Rogers back to discuss one of our listeners most requested films, 2002\u2032s <em>White Oleander<\/em>. Based on the beloved novel by Janet Fitch, the film stars Allison Lohman as the teenage Astrid, who is plunged into the foster care system after her manipulative artist mother Ingrid (a phenomenal Pfeiffer) kills her boyfriend and is sent to prison. The film suffers from moving too briskly between Astrid\u2019s foster homes (with Robin Wright and Ren\u00e9e Zellweger cast as various mothers) and met poor anemic reviews that left the film and Pfeiffer\u2019s work forgotten in a backloaded awards season.<\/p>\n<p>This week, we talk about the 2002 Supporting Actress race including who we think placed fifth in the nominations and the performance Nathaniel thinks derailed her chances. We also look at Oprah\u2019s Book Club, Pfeiffer\u2019s reticence with doing press, and personal Oscar grudges over Pfeiffer\u2019s best work.<\/p>\n<p>Topics also include Melissa McCarthy as an EMT, Robin Wright pronouncing the word\u00a0\u201cvirus\u201d, and Sheryl Crow\u2019s The Globe Sessions (which, yeah, Chris misremembers instead of C\u2019Mon C\u2019Mon).<\/p>\n<p>Follow Us on Twitter!<br \/>\n<a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/Had_Oscar_Buzz\">@Had_Oscar_Buzz<\/a><br \/>\nJoe: <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/joereid\">@joereid<\/a><br \/>\nChris: <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/chrisvfeil\">@chrisvfeil<\/a><br \/>\nNathaniel: <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/nathanielr\">@nathanielr<\/a><\/p>\n<div class=\"powerpress_player\" id=\"powerpress_player_8875\"><audio class=\"wp-audio-shortcode\" id=\"audio-528-1\" preload=\"none\" style=\"width: 100%;\" controls=\"controls\"><source type=\"audio\/mpeg\" src=\"https:\/\/media.blubrry.com\/3563080\/fightinginthewarroom.com\/THOB\/EP\/THOB_EP_136_White_Oleander_-_with_Nathaniel_Rogers.mp3?_=1\" \/><a href=\"https:\/\/media.blubrry.com\/3563080\/fightinginthewarroom.com\/THOB\/EP\/THOB_EP_136_White_Oleander_-_with_Nathaniel_Rogers.mp3\">https:\/\/media.blubrry.com\/3563080\/fightinginthewarroom.com\/THOB\/EP\/THOB_EP_136_White_Oleander_-_with_Nathaniel_Rogers.mp3<\/a><\/audio><\/div><p class=\"powerpress_links powerpress_links_mp3\" style=\"margin-bottom: 1px !important;\">Podcast: <a href=\"https:\/\/media.blubrry.com\/3563080\/fightinginthewarroom.com\/THOB\/EP\/THOB_EP_136_White_Oleander_-_with_Nathaniel_Rogers.mp3\" class=\"powerpress_link_pinw\" target=\"_blank\" title=\"Play in new window\" onclick=\"return powerpress_pinw('https:\/\/fightinginthewarroom.com\/THOB\/?powerpress_pinw=528-podcast');\" rel=\"nofollow\">Play in new window<\/a> | <a href=\"https:\/\/media.blubrry.com\/3563080\/fightinginthewarroom.com\/THOB\/EP\/THOB_EP_136_White_Oleander_-_with_Nathaniel_Rogers.mp3\" class=\"powerpress_link_d\" title=\"Download\" rel=\"nofollow\" download=\"THOB_EP_136_White_Oleander_-_with_Nathaniel_Rogers.mp3\">Download<\/a><\/p><p class=\"powerpress_links powerpress_subscribe_links\">Subscribe: <a href=\"https:\/\/fightinginthewarroom.com\/THOB\/feed\/podcast\/\" class=\"powerpress_link_subscribe powerpress_link_subscribe_rss\" target=\"_blank\" title=\"Subscribe via RSS\" rel=\"nofollow\">RSS<\/a><\/p>","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Pfor this week\u2019s episode, we\u2019ve invited The Film Experience creator and Michelle Pfeiffer superpfan Nathaniel Rogers back to discuss one of our listeners most requested films, 2002\u2032s White Oleander. Based on the beloved novel by Janet Fitch, the film stars Allison Lohman as the teenage Astrid, who is plunged into the foster care system after &hellip; <a href=\"https:\/\/fightinginthewarroom.com\/THOB\/2021\/03\/15\/136-white-oleander-with-nathaniel-rogers\/\" class=\"more-link\">Continue reading<span class=\"screen-reader-text\"> &#8220;136 &#8211; White Oleander (with Nathaniel Rogers)&#8221;<\/span><\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"audio","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[2],"tags":[5,675,13,461,174,3,678,6,677,312,676,674],"class_list":["post-528","post","type-post","status-publish","format-audio","hentry","category-this-had-oscar-buzz","tag-academy-awards","tag-alison-lohman","tag-best-supporting-actress","tag-melissa-mccarthy","tag-michelle-pfeiffer","tag-movies","tag-oprahs-book-club","tag-oscars","tag-patrick-fugit","tag-renee-zellweger","tag-robin-wright","tag-white-oleander","post_format-post-format-audio"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/fightinginthewarroom.com\/THOB\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/528","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/fightinginthewarroom.com\/THOB\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/fightinginthewarroom.com\/THOB\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/fightinginthewarroom.com\/THOB\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/fightinginthewarroom.com\/THOB\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=528"}],"version-history":[{"count":1,"href":"https:\/\/fightinginthewarroom.com\/THOB\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/528\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":530,"href":"https:\/\/fightinginthewarroom.com\/THOB\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/528\/revisions\/530"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/fightinginthewarroom.com\/THOB\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=528"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/fightinginthewarroom.com\/THOB\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=528"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/fightinginthewarroom.com\/THOB\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=528"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}