{"id":1297,"date":"2025-04-07T14:00:00","date_gmt":"2025-04-07T14:00:00","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/fightinginthewarroom.com\/THOB\/?p=1297"},"modified":"2025-04-09T23:19:46","modified_gmt":"2025-04-09T23:19:46","slug":"336-certain-women-with-shirley-li","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/fightinginthewarroom.com\/THOB\/2025\/04\/07\/336-certain-women-with-shirley-li\/","title":{"rendered":"336 &#8211; Certain Women (with Shirley Li!)"},"content":{"rendered":"\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-large\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"1024\" height=\"681\" src=\"https:\/\/fightinginthewarroom.com\/THOB\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/04\/certainwomen-thob-1024x681.jpeg\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-1298\" srcset=\"https:\/\/fightinginthewarroom.com\/THOB\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/04\/certainwomen-thob-1024x681.jpeg 1024w, https:\/\/fightinginthewarroom.com\/THOB\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/04\/certainwomen-thob-300x200.jpeg 300w, https:\/\/fightinginthewarroom.com\/THOB\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/04\/certainwomen-thob-768x511.jpeg 768w, https:\/\/fightinginthewarroom.com\/THOB\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/04\/certainwomen-thob-1536x1022.jpeg 1536w, https:\/\/fightinginthewarroom.com\/THOB\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/04\/certainwomen-thob-1200x798.jpeg 1200w, https:\/\/fightinginthewarroom.com\/THOB\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/04\/certainwomen-thob.jpeg 2040w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 709px) 85vw, (max-width: 909px) 67vw, (max-width: 1362px) 62vw, 840px\" \/><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p>As we begin to get hyped for a new Kelly Reichardt film on the horizon with&nbsp;<em>The Mastermind<\/em>, The Atlantic staff writer Shirley Li joins us to discuss her 2016 triptych&nbsp;<em>Certain Women<\/em>. The film adapts three Maile Meloy stories into one film, with each following a different woman whose voice is stifled in their Montana circumstances. With several stars populating the ensemble including Laura Dern, Michelle Williams, and Kristen Stewart, its biggest awards success was with its breakthrough star, Lily Gladstone.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>This episode, we talk about our love for Reichardt&#8217;s filmography and Gladstone&#8217;s silent long take powerhouse moment in the film. We also talk about Williams as the definitive Reichardt actor, Dern&#8217;s comic subtlety in the film, and parallel universes for the Oscar ceremony envelope snafu.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Topics also include&nbsp;<em>Lucy<\/em>, Michelle Pfeiffer, and Reichardt as a purveyor of care.<\/p>\n<div class=\"powerpress_player\" id=\"powerpress_player_8565\"><audio class=\"wp-audio-shortcode\" id=\"audio-1297-1\" preload=\"none\" style=\"width: 100%;\" controls=\"controls\"><source type=\"audio\/mpeg\" src=\"https:\/\/media.blubrry.com\/3563080\/fightinginthewarroom.com\/THOB\/EP\/THOB_EP_336_Certain_Women_-_with_Shirley_Li_v2.mp3?_=1\" \/><a href=\"https:\/\/media.blubrry.com\/3563080\/fightinginthewarroom.com\/THOB\/EP\/THOB_EP_336_Certain_Women_-_with_Shirley_Li_v2.mp3\">https:\/\/media.blubrry.com\/3563080\/fightinginthewarroom.com\/THOB\/EP\/THOB_EP_336_Certain_Women_-_with_Shirley_Li_v2.mp3<\/a><\/audio><\/div><p class=\"powerpress_links powerpress_links_mp3\" style=\"margin-bottom: 1px !important;\">Podcast: <a href=\"https:\/\/media.blubrry.com\/3563080\/fightinginthewarroom.com\/THOB\/EP\/THOB_EP_336_Certain_Women_-_with_Shirley_Li_v2.mp3\" class=\"powerpress_link_pinw\" target=\"_blank\" title=\"Play in new window\" onclick=\"return powerpress_pinw('https:\/\/fightinginthewarroom.com\/THOB\/?powerpress_pinw=1297-podcast');\" rel=\"nofollow\">Play in new window<\/a> | <a href=\"https:\/\/media.blubrry.com\/3563080\/fightinginthewarroom.com\/THOB\/EP\/THOB_EP_336_Certain_Women_-_with_Shirley_Li_v2.mp3\" class=\"powerpress_link_d\" title=\"Download\" rel=\"nofollow\" download=\"THOB_EP_336_Certain_Women_-_with_Shirley_Li_v2.mp3\">Download<\/a><\/p><p class=\"powerpress_links powerpress_subscribe_links\">Subscribe: <a href=\"https:\/\/fightinginthewarroom.com\/THOB\/feed\/podcast\/\" class=\"powerpress_link_subscribe powerpress_link_subscribe_rss\" target=\"_blank\" title=\"Subscribe via RSS\" rel=\"nofollow\">RSS<\/a><\/p>","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>As we begin to get hyped for a new Kelly Reichardt film on the horizon with&nbsp;The Mastermind, The Atlantic staff writer Shirley Li joins us to discuss her 2016 triptych&nbsp;Certain Women. 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